>Also, how were all those different types of metabolisms figured? One
>would have to study very large groups of people for very long times
>in order to be able to make anything close to such definitive
>statements about the so-called "types" of metabolisms and their
>components. Could you please tell me where I can go to see what must
>necessarily be the tremendous compendium of documentation that was
>done in order to allow such comprehensive, detailed conclusions to be
>reached?
Hi Elliot,
I don't have time to answer all your questions and points right now.
But here goes on what I have time for at the moment ...
Dr. Kelley cured himself of cancer, and then word spread and people
began flocking to him for treatment. Kelley wrote:
"In the 35 years since I cured myself of terminal pancreatic cancer
and guided some 33,000 cancer victims to health ..."
http://www.whale.to/a/kelley.html
That links to 143 pages of "One Answer to Cancer"
and includes this informative section on the metabolic types
http://www.whale.to/a/kelley.html#*Chapter%20VIII*
Others have come up with various systems of metabolic typing, usually
building on those who came before them.
http://www.frot.co.nz/dietnet/reviews/metabolic_diets.htm [snippet quotes]
"Dr George Watson (in"Nutrition and your mind")"
"Rudolph Wiley (His original book Biobalance has now been replaced
with
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0943685338/debsfoodnutriweb>"Biobalance2")
carried on with Watson's research."
"James and Peter D'adamo developed the
<http://www.frot.co.nz/dietnet/reviews/eatright.htm>blood type theory
to explain the differences, and discovered the impact that lectins
can have on health."
"William Kelley
(<http://www.frot.co.nz/dietnet/reviews/metabolic_typing.htm>"The
Metabolic Typing Diet" by William Wolcott) discovered the different
diets required ..."
"Another book, which is as yet unpublished, is by Robert McFerran."
This is a pretty good beginning review of Kelley's system:
http://www.frot.co.nz/dietnet/reviews/metabolic_typing.htm
[quote] There are 8 different components of metabolic typing, the
most important being how balanced the autonomic nervous system (ANS)
is, and the oxidation rate. Dr Kelley discovered the different
metabolic types after he cured himself of cancer with a vegetarian
diet, but found his wife needed a high protein diet when she
developed a chronic illness. He found that many people had imbalances
in the ANS, some being parasympathetic dominant (ie. the sympathetic
was weak) and some being sympathetic dominant, while some were more balanced.
If a person was sympathetic dominant, a vegetarian or high carb diet
strengthened the parasympathetic side, bringing the person into
balance. A parasympathetic dominant needed a high protein, low carb
diet to come back into balance. A person who was fairly balanced
needed a more mixed diet with a wider range of nutrients to stay in
balance. This system worked well for most people, but there were some
who didn't thrive on it.
Wolcott then came across the research done by George Watson on
oxidation rates. Those Watson called fast oxidisers (who burned
carbohydrate very quickly) needed a high protein diet, like
parasympathetic dominants. Slow oxidisers needed a diet like the
sympathetic dominants. In most cases, parasympathetic dominants are
fast oxidisers, and sympathetic dominants are slow oxidisers, so the
diets match. A person who is fairly balanced in both areas is termed
a Mixed Absolute and needs a mixed diet. [End quote]
>Here is a site on wikipedia that very significantly calls into
>question Weston A. Price's theories:
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Weston_A._Price_Foundation>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Weston_A._Price_Foundation
OK, I see a few people of unknown credentials debating with each
other over the content of a wiki entry.
Since I have spent a good deal of time studying the work Dr. Price,
the arguments of the
Price supporters are more logical to me.
What you mention about Byrnes, to discredit the work of Price, is an
irrelevant and illogical conclusion,
as the discussion at that link points out.
>Among other things, it says that one particularly distinguished
>member of the Weston A. Price Foundation died at quite a young age---
>somewhere between 35 and 50---of a stroke.
Dr. Stephen Byrnes -- and it goes on to say he died of AIDS.
So a little search turns up this page about how vegans have use the
stroke at age 41, likely caused by AIDS mainstream treatment to
discredit him and his work, and by association, the work of Dr. Price.
http://wisewitch.blogspot.com/2006/03/vegans-lies-and-death-of-dr-stephen.html
Elliott you share some very good information on these discussion
lists and you are most helpful to people.
When a person gets cancer these "distortive" diets can very much help them.
But a 100% vegan diet is not healthy for 100% of the people 100% of the time.
Some people do quite well on it long-term, some only for a short
time, and some never.
It depends on your genetics. I am of Northern European ancestry and
my system does not do well on a Polynesian diet.
People have nearly killed themselves trying to stay on a diet that at
first really helped them.
Chet Day for one.
http://chetday.com/hallelujah-diet-dangers.htm
And others http://beyondveg.com/.
Some vegetarians say meat-eating leads to violence, but the beyondveg
site points to some very violent behavior by vegetarians, for lack of
enough nutritional support for the nervous system.
It only took two people for Dr. Kelley to figure that not everyone is
suited to the same diet.
He got well on a vegetarian diet and he practically killed his wife
before he finally gave her a spoonful of meat broth.
I read the Metabolic Typing Diet by William Wolcott
http://www.frot.co.nz/dietnet/reviews/metabolic_typing.htm
Each person really must go by how they feel on a diet, and change
when necessary. And a good many of can do well on less animal protein
and fat, and more raw produce.
The Price Foundation supports a return to producing animal and
vegetable foodstuff's for people that are as free from toxins as
possible and where the plants and animals are treated humanely and
fed the nutrients and foods they are meant to uptake/eat, not stuffed
up on chemicals and grains for a quick trip to market. http://westonaprice.org.
I hope these links help expand your view on the topic.
Karen
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