Kamis, 31 Juli 2008

[cancercured] Movie Review of the Crazy Sexy Cancer?

Hi,

Anyone seen the movie at http://www.crazysexycancer.com/ ?

What did you think about it?

Edwin


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Re: [cancercured] Duodenal Ulcer

One of the fastest and most efficient thing you can do is get a few doses of Bismuth, not from the Pink drink, but bismuth as found in Gastromycin.

39 years ago I was suffering with serious Duodenal ulcers..............and on the Texas Border an Immigration Officer I was 'assigned' to suggested a product his wife used to avoid major sugary to remove half her stomach.

I took this for three day and have not had an ulcer attack in these 39 years.


Twenty years after I got rid of the problem I read the Reader's Digest issue where Bismuth and an Antibiotic was used to successfully treat Ulcers and especially those caused by H. Pylori. However, it was the Bismuth and no antibiotic I used. What would you expect from big Pharma? An antibiotic that's what.

The only product that comes close to what I took is Gastromycin by, I think, Allergy Research and sold by Vitamin Shoppe and I suppose others. My 'concoction was made by a Compounding Pharmacist and I suppose one could make up something as well. Bismuth, licorice, water and I think that's it. ??

Go ahead and take the Mastic Gum too, but the specific for Duodenal Ulcers and possibly H-Pylori is the Bismuth found in Gastromycin. A well-founded testimonial with the bismuth 'blessed' by the Allopathic system too. Somewhere in my nest of old articles is the original Reader's Digest that heralded what I had been introduced to 20 years before. Why did it take them twenty years to find this? Who found it the first time around?

Joe C.

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[cancercured] Re: Duodenal Ulcer

Betaine Hydrochloride may help if the bacteria infection is caused by
lack of stomach acid.

However, the stuff survives well once they establish an ulcer in the
mucus. I read an abstract it takes like 30min at this point in a ph
of 1-3 to kill the H. Pylori. Bacteria uses urease-action to lower
ph to survive in acid, so like the only difference is the type of by-
product it produces making it either a good or bad bacteria.

Like acidipholus byproduct is lactic acid which helps in digesting
dairy; however pylori's is ammonia which is toxic.

-Anth


--- In cancercured, "Johanne" <thewfamily> wrote:
>Massive doses of mastic gum would take care of this. Should be
tested for h. pylori. Very important!


> From: jrrjim
> Anyone have any advice for dealing with a duodenal ulcer?
> I used to use sucralfate, but this is an aluminum compound, so I
don't think it would be very good for someone dealing with cancer.


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Re: [cancercured] Duodenal Ulcer

Massive doses of mastic gum would take care of this. Should be tested for h. pylori.

Very important!

Johanne


From: jrrjim
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:38 AM
To: cancercured@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cancercured] Duodenal Ulcer


Anyone have any advice for dealing with a duodenal ulcer?

I used to use sucralfate, but this is an aluminum compound, so I don't
think it would be very good for someone dealing with cancer.

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[cancercured] Re: What's your take on beta 1, 3d glucan? DMG?

--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, "jrrjim" <jim.mcelroy10@...> wrote:
>
> Does TransferPoint do this?
>

I don't know, but since the dose is so high, as opposed to the other brand, I'm guessing not.

xxoo
Melissa

> --- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, Steven Johnson <sjmiddleburg@>
> wrote:
> >
> > The receptor size for beta glucan is very small which makes it very
> difficult for the body to absorb. If Beta Glucan is micronized it
> becomes almost totally absorbable so smaller amounts will yield 200 to 300 times more usuable product.

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Re: [cancercured] Hoxsey Formula: was Re: Arte Smarte

Hello vttttti,

Here is the listing from an order I made:

Hoxsey Tumors BeGone Formula Extract 2 fl oz: HH (1022-002_HH) - Quantity : 1 Status : Item Shipped (07/30/2008)

Mike
Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 9:36:31 PM, you wrote:

v> I looked up the shamanshop.net..is that the Red Clover formula?
v> thats all i saw under search for Hoxsey

--
Best regards,
Mike mailto:goldenmike@sbcglobal.net


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[cancercured] Arte Smarte-Bloodroot

> > It is very cheap. You get 90 caps for 18 bucks at
> essenseoflife.com.

For some reason I cannot find this website and product. Is there another website or different spelling? Product name?
thanks
Joe

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Re: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to make it easier?

LOL!!

-------Original Message-------

From: Arlyn Grant
Date: 7/31/2008 2:25:13 PM
To: cancercured@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to
make it easier?

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:00:03 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time), "Stargazer"
<Stargazer@olypen.com> said:
> Oh dear. I was thinking you tossed a peach pit in there or something.
>
> ~Amber

I actually did toss a peach pit into the vitamix by accident. It
pulvarized it nicely. But it did leave the smoothie a little chunky.
:)

ar
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Re: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to make it easier?

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:00:03 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time), "Stargazer"
<Stargazer@olypen.com> said:
> Oh dear. I was thinking you tossed a peach pit in there or something.
>
> ~Amber

I actually did toss a peach pit into the vitamix by accident. It
pulvarized it nicely. But it did leave the smoothie a little chunky.
:)

ar
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Re: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to make it easier?

Oh dear. I was thinking you tossed a peach pit in there or something.

~Amber

-------Original Message-------

From: JCastron
Date: 07/31/08 06:30:47
To: cancercured@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to
make it easier?

What did I do to mess up the blades?

Dropped a spoon into the container while it was running! They bent
enough to change the action.


Mixed-up Vitaman. Joe C.

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[cancercured] Re: What's your take on beta 1, 3d glucan? DMG?

Does TransferPoint do this?

--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, Steven Johnson <sjmiddleburg@...>
wrote:
>
> The receptor size for beta glucan is very small which makes it very
difficult for the body to absorb. If Beta Glucan is micronized it
becomes almost totally absorbable so smaller amounts will yield 200 to
300 times more usuable product.
>
>
> --- On Thu, 7/31/08, Melissa <melissabuhmeyer@...> wrote:
>
> So, I see there's a huge difference in dose between this BG and the
one Bill Henderson recommends ... Transfer Point. They recommend 500mg
per 50 pounds of body weight.
>
> What gives with that dose difference, does anyone know?
>

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Re: [cancercured] Duodenal Ulcer

Comfrey tea worked for me. Cleared up a long standing ulcer in about 2 weeks. It did flare up now and then, a few more days of comfry and it was all better.20 years later I am still ulcer free.
 
It took me a couple of years to identify and reverse digestive and other problems caused by the ulcer drug Tagamet, which in six months did nothing for the ulcer, except perhaps temporarily put out the fire.
 
 Comfrey tea tastes a bit like old socks, so add some mint or lemon balm or anything a bit more tasty.3- 6 cups a day will usually do the job.
 
Health Canda and the FDA have tried to prove comfrey carcenogenic. Tests on rats did produce tumours, however the rats  were given powerful extracts of comfry which were the equivilent of drinking 200 cups of comfrey tea a day for an adult human.
 
Comfrey is a biblilcal herb, and has been in use for 5000 years.
 
I recently had a nasty rash on my scalp. I had booked for a perm, five days down the road, and realized I would be insane to use perm solution on something that looked and felt like a bad case of cradle cap. I grow comfrey so I whizzed a handful of leaves in the blender with water, let it sit for a day, and strained it. I applied the solution for 3 days which cleared my scalp completely.
 
I have been asked if it would help with skin cancer. I have no idea,rather doubt it but  has anyone had any experience with this ?
 

jrrjim <jim.mcelroy> wrote:
Anyone have any advice for dealing with a duodenal ulcer?
I used to use sucralfate, but this is an aluminum compound, so I don't think it would be very good for someone dealing with cancer.

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[cancercured] Duodenal Ulcer

Anyone have any advice for dealing with a duodenal ulcer?

I used to use sucralfate, but this is an aluminum compound, so I don't
think it would be very good for someone dealing with cancer.


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[cancercured] Hoxsey Formula: was Re: Arte Smarte

It says Red Clover Hoxsey formula and looks similar to what I've seen
for the Hoxsey formula, minus, perhaps, the potassium iodine. But the
bottles are so small and expensive! Is there a better possible source?

--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, "vttttti" <vttttt@...> wrote:
>
> I looked up the shamanshop.net..is that the Red Clover formula?
> thats all i saw under search for Hoxsey
>
> --- In cancercured, goldenmike wrote:
> > Hello jrrjim,
> > No, properly dosed it induces apoptosis in cancer cells, without
> > harming normal tissue. The formulas containg slippery elm are for
> the benefit of sensitive individuals. The topical sclerotics vary in
> > quality. When there are problems with those it is usually due to
> the zinc chloride. You can get the Hoxsey internal formula from
shamanshop.net
> > Mike
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[cancercured] Re: What's your take on beta 1, 3d glucan? DMG?

I take transfer point. What is the difference in the dosages?

--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, "Melissa" <melissabuhmeyer@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, Steven Johnson <sjmiddleburg@>
wrote:
> >
> > The best beta glucan available and with the most exstensive
research is available from the Nutritional Scientific Corporation.
> > www.nsc24.com
> >
>
> So, I see there's a huge difference in dose between this BG and
the one Bill Henderson recommends ... Transfer Point. They recommend
500mg per 50 pounds of body weight.
> What gives with that dose difference, does anyone know?
>
> xxoo
> Melissa??????
> >
>

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[cancercured] alternative treatments

I am a representative of IIB Clinic in Puerto Vallarta Mexico. Dr. Raul
Morales has been working with stem cell treatments for cancer, and
reparation of damaged organs for numerous years, with very successful
results. These treatments involve the patients stem cells, and blood,
not another persons, as well as change in diet. For more information
please check his web-site at www.iibmed.com, or contact me with any
questions you may have about this procedure.

Lee-Anne Hemingway


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Re: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to make it easier?

What did I do to mess up the blades?

Dropped a spoon into the container while it was running! They bent enough to change the action.


Mixed-up Vitaman. Joe C.

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Re: [cancercured] Re: What's your take on beta 1, 3d glucan? DMG?

The receptor size for beta glucan is very small which makes it very difficult for the body to absorb. If Beta Glucan is micronized it becomes almost totally absorbable so smaller amounts will yield 200 to 300 times more usuable product.


--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Melissa <melissabuhmeyer@mac.com> wrote:

So, I see there's a huge difference in dose between this BG and the one Bill Henderson recommends ... Transfer Point. They recommend 500mg per 50 pounds of body weight.

What gives with that dose difference, does anyone know?


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Rabu, 30 Juli 2008

[cancercured] Re: What's your take on beta 1, 3d glucan? DMG?

--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, Steven Johnson <sjmiddleburg@...> wrote:
>
> The best beta glucan available and with the most exstensive research is available from the Nutritional Scientific Corporation.
> www.nsc24.com
>

So, I see there's a huge difference in dose between this BG and the one Bill Henderson recommends ... Transfer Point. They recommend 500mg per 50 pounds of body weight.
What gives with that dose difference, does anyone know?

xxoo
Melissa      
>


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[cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to make it easier?

You do know you can contact the company and get another blade. You
might even still be under warranty and they would replace it for you.
I had mine replaced when it started making a brown mess on the base
because the seal was old. Contact them.
I love mine and I use it everyday for green smoothies for breakfast
every morning. I could not do without my Vita Mix.

Kathryn

-- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, "JCastron" <jcastron1@...> wrote:
>
> I have a Vitamix but unfortunately messed up the blades before
getting serious with juicing.
> There was a Consumer Report magazine some time back that rated
another machine, much less cost, higher than the Vitamix. I liked
the Vitamix before messing up the blades and now it is just OK for
smoothies. I am sure it will do the job but maybe someone can find
the article and a lesser costly unit will appear.
> Joe C.

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Re: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to make it easier?

What did you do to mess up the blades Joe?

~Amber

-------Original Message-------

From: JCastron
Date: 7/30/2008 8:59:40 PM
To: cancercured@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to
make it easier?

I have a Vitamix but unfortunately messed up the blades before getting
serious with juicing.

There was a Consumer Report magazine some time back that rated another
machine, much less cost, higher than the Vitamix. I liked the Vitamix
before messing up the blades and now it is just OK for smoothies. I am
sure it will do the job but maybe someone can find the article and a lesser
costly unit will appear.

Joe C.

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Re: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to make it easier?

I have a Vitamix but unfortunately messed up the blades before getting serious with juicing.

There was a Consumer Report magazine some time back that rated another machine, much less cost, higher than the Vitamix. I liked the Vitamix before messing up the blades and now it is just OK for smoothies. I am sure it will do the job but maybe someone can find the article and a lesser costly unit will appear.

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Re: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to make it easier?

Thanks Arlyn. I'll check out that group too - I want to do a bit more
research before I shell out the cash as these Vitamix machines are
expensive!

~Amber

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From: Arlyn Grant
Date: 7/30/2008 7:11:44 PM
To: cancercured@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to
make it easier?

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:25:44 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time), "Stargazer"
<Stargazer@olypen.com> said:
> I'm thinking of getting a Vitamix. What all do you use it for?
>
> ~Amber

Hi Amber,

I use it to make fruit smoothies and green smoothies. There is a
vitamix yahoo group where they discuss recipes. I used to also make
salad dressings and tahini, etc. Oh, I also used to make almond milk
with it.

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[cancercured] Hoxsey Formula: was Re: Arte Smarte

I looked up the shamanshop.net..is that the Red Clover formula?
thats all i saw under search for Hoxsey

--- In cancercured, goldenmike wrote:
> Hello jrrjim,
> No, properly dosed it induces apoptosis in cancer cells, without
> harming normal tissue. The formulas containg slippery elm are for
the benefit of sensitive individuals. The topical sclerotics vary in
> quality. When there are problems with those it is usually due to
the zinc chloride. You can get the Hoxsey internal formula from shamanshop.net
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Re: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to make it easier?

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:25:44 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time), "Stargazer"
<Stargazer@olypen.com> said:
> I'm thinking of getting a Vitamix. What all do you use it for?
>
> ~Amber

Hi Amber,

I use it to make fruit smoothies and green smoothies. There is a
vitamix yahoo group where they discuss recipes. I used to also make
salad dressings and tahini, etc. Oh, I also used to make almond milk
with it.

ar
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Re: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to make it easier?

Can you use wheat grass in the Vitamix?

~Amber

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From: aamberamber
Date: 7/30/2008 3:35:49 PM
To: cancercured@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to make it
easier?

RE; JUICING-VITA MIX WAS EASIER FOR ME, IT LEAVES IN THE PULP/FIBER
OF WHATEVER YOU JUICED AND ALOT OF THE NUTRITION YOU NEED IS IN THERE.
IT ALSO PULVERIZES STRAWBERRRY SEEDS SO U CAN DRINK THEM - EACH SEED
HAS 35 DIFFERENT ANTIOXIDANTS. ASK FOR A REFURBISHED MODEL - SAME
WARRANTY, JUST AS GOOD.
--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, "vttttti" <vttttt@...> wrote:
>
> How much wheatgrass juice a day is enough?
>
> I read that the Gerson diet say to take 1 oz, 3 times a day

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Re: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to make it easier?

I'm thinking of getting a Vitamix. What all do you use it for?

~Amber

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From: Arlyn Grant
Date: 7/30/2008 4:43:15 PM
To: cancercured@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to
make it easier?

It's good to clear up that a Vitamix is NOT a juicer. A juicer takes
out the pulp and the Vitamix is a blender. So be careful not to confuse
the two.

Juicing is used for a specific reason, so the removal of the pulp is
essential.

That being said, I love my Vitamix and have used it almost daily for six
years.

ar


On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:28:54 -0000, "aamberamber"
<aamberamber@yahoo.com> said:
> RE; JUICING-VITA MIX WAS EASIER FOR ME, IT LEAVES IN THE PULP/FIBER
> OF WHATEVER YOU JUICED AND ALOT OF THE NUTRITION YOU NEED IS IN THERE.
> IT ALSO PULVERIZES STRAWBERRRY SEEDS SO U CAN DRINK THEM - EACH SEED
> HAS 35 DIFFERENT ANTIOXIDANTS. ASK FOR A REFURBISHED MODEL - SAME
> WARRANTY, JUST AS GOOD.
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[cancercured] Re: Hands-on energy healing

Hi Guy,

I had received LDN info before from another list member. The problem is obtaining it since I live in Japan. The doctor who is mentioned in the article has retired. I will make another attempt at obtaining it. Another list member, I think his name is Dee once sent me info about a doctor in Hong Kong who will prescibe it.

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Re: [cancercured] Re: What's your take on beta 1, 3d glucan? DMG?

The best beta glucan available and with the most exstensive research is available from the
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Re: [cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to make it easier?

It's good to clear up that a Vitamix is NOT a juicer. A juicer takes
out the pulp and the Vitamix is a blender. So be careful not to confuse
the two.

Juicing is used for a specific reason, so the removal of the pulp is
essential.

That being said, I love my Vitamix and have used it almost daily for six
years.

ar


On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:28:54 -0000, "aamberamber"
<aamberamber@yahoo.com> said:
> RE; JUICING-VITA MIX WAS EASIER FOR ME, IT LEAVES IN THE PULP/FIBER
> OF WHATEVER YOU JUICED AND ALOT OF THE NUTRITION YOU NEED IS IN THERE.
> IT ALSO PULVERIZES STRAWBERRRY SEEDS SO U CAN DRINK THEM - EACH SEED
> HAS 35 DIFFERENT ANTIOXIDANTS. ASK FOR A REFURBISHED MODEL - SAME
> WARRANTY, JUST AS GOOD.
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[cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to make it easier?

RE; JUICING-VITA MIX WAS EASIER FOR ME, IT LEAVES IN THE PULP/FIBER
OF WHATEVER YOU JUICED AND ALOT OF THE NUTRITION YOU NEED IS IN THERE.
IT ALSO PULVERIZES STRAWBERRRY SEEDS SO U CAN DRINK THEM - EACH SEED
HAS 35 DIFFERENT ANTIOXIDANTS. ASK FOR A REFURBISHED MODEL - SAME
WARRANTY, JUST AS GOOD.
--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, "vttttti" <vttttt@...> wrote:
>
> How much wheatgrass juice a day is enough?
>
> I read that the Gerson diet say to take 1 oz, 3 times a day
>
> Anyone know how much the Ann Wigmore program recommends?
>
> "Arlyn Grant" wrote:
> > I have a Green Life. It's a great juicer, but like you, I just
> didn't have the time....I know the Green machines
> can juice wheatgrass, so perhaps it would work out well.
> > ar
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Re[2]: [cancercured] Re: Applied Kineseology -- real or bogus?

Hello Simon,

Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 2:17:22 PM, you wrote:

SM> Hey Mike,

SM> not sure what you are referring to here when you say...
SM> " The problem with this is the lack of cross-examiner
>> agreement, which has actually suffered under what has happened to AK."

SM> There's an excellent article here
SM> http://www.systemsdc.com/ak/researchDCarticle.html
SM> which among other things reports a recent major review article on Manual

I'm not sure if you are following what I was saying. The
discussion you linked to concerns muscle testing being valid in
musculoskeletal diagnosis. Most people would agree that this is
true. In fact, one of the subjects I teach in a college setting
is a course called Kinesiology and Pathology. Kinesiology and
muscle testing are valid areas of concern in neuromusculoskeletal
care. Applied Kinesiology is a few steps removed from that and
much more "on the fringe". I'm "on the fringe" myself being both
a chiropractor and acupuncturist, so I can appreciate some value
derived from classic AK. I am not an AK diplomate myself, but did
take several seminars from Goodheart and also own his complete
video tape series, which I've watched many times. I would not
base my own practice on AK, but there is a lot there of merit.
In my post I was saying that Goodheart himself was against some
of the practices insinuated into AK by others. One of these
objections was the testing for nutritional appropriateness of a
substance by having the testee hold the item in their hand.
Goodhearts testing was based on neurological theory, not on new
age energy concepts. This is what he said, not me.
As people have drifted into these more esoteric aspects the
cross-examiner reliabilty has declined. The testing is very
subjective and is more similar to divining, dowsing and other
exotic endeavors. They might still have some sort of value in
the same way that a good sense of intuition does.
When I started in practice many years ago, I used to do a battery
of orthopedic and neurological tests on patients. After years of
experience, I am able to "cut to the chase" and home in on the
problem area in a very "non-cookbook" way. I'm using a sort of
intuition honed by time like any other skill. There may be
similar value in some of the more etheric AK practices (as
opposed to what Goodheart taught), but it does not hold up well
under close scrutiny.

Mike


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[cancercured] Re: Apricot and Apple Seeds?

> oooooh im so sorry he must have been ingesting quite a bit.. how
is he
> doing now?? i hope alright..


Yes, he was ingesting quite a bit of it - I should have mentioned
that - but he's doing really well now. He had some residual numbness
in his feet and blurred vision (we think from the cyanide), but that
is improving. He's starting back on the apricot kernels now, but at a
much lower dose. He says he feels great.
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Re: [cancercured] Re: Applied Kineseology -- real or bogus?

Hey Mike,

not sure what you are referring to here when you say...
" The problem with this is the lack of cross-examiner
> agreement, which has actually suffered under what has happened to AK."

There's an excellent article here
http://www.systemsdc.com/ak/researchDCarticle.html
which among other things reports a recent major review article on Manual
Muscle Testing and says:
"The inter-examiner reliability of the MMT was reviewed from 19 studies.7-18
Levels of agreement attained were excellent, ranging from 82 percent to 97
percent agreement for inter-examiner reliability, and from 96 percent to 98
percent for test-retest reliability. Despite this evidence, critics who
remain unaware of the research literature underlying the MMT still assert
that the method is unreliable. However this review of the scientific
literature on MMT shows that this contention should be dismissed."

I agree that some practitioners not skilled in AK use it as if they were
using a pendulum. However, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Goodheart's original hypothesis about AK has stood up to scientific testing:
it is that the failure of a muscle to perform properly during a manual
muscle test. indicates some kind of neuromuscular dysfunction. There is a
long list of factors that may cause this dysfunction -- as well as the
purely biomechanical, postural, muscular and spinal influences, these are
now known to include nutrtiion, toxic chemicals and even meridian
imbalances. The manual muscle test is seen as a practical and functional
test of both biomechanics and the nervous system; *used properly* it has
nothing to do with intuition or dowsing.

Simon.


From: <goldenmike@sbcglobal.net>
> Hello Guru,
I realize that for some practitioners AK is a sort of dowsing, similar to using a pendulum or other prop that allows permission to access the unconscious. The problem with this is the lack of cross-examiner agreement, which has actually suffered under what has happened to AK.
> The way it is used now is no better than intuition. Intuition can
> be an amazing tool for certain talented individuals at least some of
> the time. AK, whether classic or "new wave" has to be taken with a
> grain of salt. It's best use is to give hints concerning
> conventional diagnostic modalities. It's, at best, a type of "hunch" providing a shortcut to more substantial evidence. It should not stand alone.
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Re: [cancercured] Hoxsey Formula: was Re: Arte Smarte

Hello jrrjim,

No, properly dosed it induces apoptosis in cancer cells, without
harming normal tissue. The formulas containg slippery elm are for the
benefit of sensitive individuals. The topical sclerotics vary in
quality. When there are problems with those it is usually due to the
zinc chloride.
You can get the Hoxsey internal formula from shamanshop.net

Mike

Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 11:23:12 AM, you wrote:

j> Bloodroot is one of the main ingredients in the Hoxsey external
j> formula. However, that stuff literally eats your flesh away. What
j> does it do internally? Do you sacrifice your stomach?

j> Speaking of which, what do people think of the Hoxsey internal
j> formula? Is it obtainable for a reasonable price online?

>


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Re: [cancercured] Re: Applied Kineseology -- real or bogus?

Hello Guru,

I realize that for some practitioners AK is a sort of dowsing, similar
to using a pendulum or other prop that allows permission to access
the unconscious. The problem with this is the lack of cross-examiner
agreement, which has actually suffered under what has happened to AK.
The way it is used now is no better than intuition. Intuition can
be an amazing tool for certain talented individuals at least some of
the time. AK, whether classic or "new wave" has to be taken with a
grain of salt. It's best use is to give hints concerning
conventional diagnostic modalities. It's, at best, a type of "hunch"
providing a shortcut to more substantial evidence. It should not
stand alone.

Mike

Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 9:52:53 AM, you wrote:

GK> Mike

GK> Goodheart did the natural medicine world a big favor when he
GK> discovered Applied Kinesiology in 1964. However, like most science
GK> and art, AK has evolved. I have seen others and I have used AK with
GK> very good results over the years. Many people use it like dowsing.
GK> Dowsers and people who use these "odd twists" can often find problems
GK> and solutions others cannot.


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[cancercured] Hoxsey Formula: was Re: Arte Smarte

Bloodroot is one of the main ingredients in the Hoxsey external
formula. However, that stuff literally eats your flesh away. What
does it do internally? Do you sacrifice your stomach?

Speaking of which, what do people think of the Hoxsey internal
formula? Is it obtainable for a reasonable price online?


--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, goldenmike@... wrote:
>
> Hello jrrjim,
>
> They have studies at this link:
>
> http://www.hopewelltechnologieslimited.com/science_of_bloodroot.html
>
> Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 12:51:42 AM, you wrote:
>
> j> Do they know the mechanism by which bloodroot kills cancer, yet
> j> leaves healthy cells alone? Or does it just seem to do it?
>
> j> --- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, Mike Golden <goldenmike@>
> j> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello jrrjim,
> >>
> >> It is very cheap. You get 90 caps for 18 bucks at
> j> essenseoflife.com.
> >> There are two ways to go. If you are sturdy (which is why I
asked
> >> you about that previously) you can take 2 full strength (350 mg)
> >> caps twice a day. If you have a sensitive stomach you can take
the
> >> 85 mg caps that are combined with slippery elm. A full dose of
> >> those is a whopping 12 caps 3 times per day. I'm guessing you
can
> >> get efficacy with a smaller dose if you need to go that route.
> >> As far as using it goes, even 1 cap of the low dose stuff gives
> j> Lori
> >> some distress. When I gave her one weak capsule dissolved in
DMSO
> >> and applied to a few square inches of skin it caused huge cell
> j> death
> >> by the next day. She had small dead tumors coming out of the
skin
> >> of her chest where she has a large amount of metastasis. This
also
> >> made her feel very unwell for a couple of days with typical
> >> Hexrheimer type symptoms. After about 1 week the skin healed
up
> j> and
> >> the swelling went down. The interesting thing was that a lot
of
> j> the
> >> cell death was inches away from where we applied the
> j> DMSO/bloodroot.
> >> I am currently trying to come up with a way to pace this so it
is
> >> not so hard on her.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 12:09:10 PM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> j> --- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, goldenmike@ wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hello jrrjim,
> >> >>
> >>
> >> >> 9. Find something else to alternate with the ART. If you
take
> j> ART
> >> >> for 5 days and then take a few days off you can take another
> j> herb that
> >> >> might be best used intermittently. For example this could be
> >> >> bloodroot with slippery elm. Read up on it.
> >> >>
> >>
> >> j> Have you tried this? Is there an economical source of
bloodroot
> j> &
> >> j> slippery elm? What dose would you recommend?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >> Mike mailto:goldenmike@
> >>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
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[cancercured] Re: Applied Kineseology -- real or bogus?

Mike

Goodheart did the natural medicine world a big favor when he
discovered Applied Kinesiology in 1964. However, like most science
and art, AK has evolved. I have seen others and I have used AK with
very good results over the years. Many people use it like dowsing.
Dowsers and people who use these "odd twists" can often find problems
and solutions others cannot.

GB

--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, goldenmike@... wrote:
>
> Hello jrrjim,
>
> Monday, July 28, 2008, 11:34:44 AM, you wrote:
>
> j> I just got done reading an article on quackwatch about applied
> j> kineseology. Now quackwatch has its problems, I will admit, but the
> j> stuff they were saying was pretty interesting...
>
> j> They took items that were known to provoke allergic reactions to
> j> people, then ran double-blind AK experiments on the people with the
> j> allergens. AK was completely unable to determine which of the
> j> substances were the allergens for the specific people.
>
>
> Applied Kinesiology was created by George Goodheart. George, who died
> a few months ago (nearly 90) was a close friend of my wife. I knew
> him for many years. A lot of people misuse AK for nutritional testing
> by having a person hold a food substance or supplement in his hand and
> then testing a muscle. They claim they are testing the energy field
> of the subject. This type of thing upset George to no end. His
> concept for nutritional testing was for the subject to chew a bit of
the subtance and
> hold it in the mouth while a muscle was tested. Taste receptors are
> wired into reflexes. When an animal tastes something inappropriate it
> will often reflexively spit it out. This is an evolutionary mechanism
> that works through neuro circuits. It is a physiological mechanism
> that does not require invoking energy fields and the like. Yhe
> International College of Applied Kinesiology does not endorse many of
> the odd twists that been added by "new age" practiotioners over the
> years. Oh....and Quackbusters sucks!
>
> Mike
>
> --
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[cancercured] Re: Hands-on energy healing

Interesting article in Hartford this week on energy healing:
http://www.courant.com/news/health/hc-healingtouch0728.artjul28,0,4379719.story
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Re: [cancercured] Re: Arte Smarte

Hello jrrjim,

They have studies at this link:

http://www.hopewelltechnologieslimited.com/science_of_bloodroot.html

Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 12:51:42 AM, you wrote:

j> Do they know the mechanism by which bloodroot kills cancer, yet
j> leaves healthy cells alone? Or does it just seem to do it?

j> --- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, Mike Golden <goldenmike@...>
j> wrote:
>>
>> Hello jrrjim,
>>
>> It is very cheap. You get 90 caps for 18 bucks at
j> essenseoflife.com.
>> There are two ways to go. If you are sturdy (which is why I asked
>> you about that previously) you can take 2 full strength (350 mg)
>> caps twice a day. If you have a sensitive stomach you can take the
>> 85 mg caps that are combined with slippery elm. A full dose of
>> those is a whopping 12 caps 3 times per day. I'm guessing you can
>> get efficacy with a smaller dose if you need to go that route.
>> As far as using it goes, even 1 cap of the low dose stuff gives
j> Lori
>> some distress. When I gave her one weak capsule dissolved in DMSO
>> and applied to a few square inches of skin it caused huge cell
j> death
>> by the next day. She had small dead tumors coming out of the skin
>> of her chest where she has a large amount of metastasis. This also
>> made her feel very unwell for a couple of days with typical
>> Hexrheimer type symptoms. After about 1 week the skin healed up
j> and
>> the swelling went down. The interesting thing was that a lot of
j> the
>> cell death was inches away from where we applied the
j> DMSO/bloodroot.
>> I am currently trying to come up with a way to pace this so it is
>> not so hard on her.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 12:09:10 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> j> --- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, goldenmike@ wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello jrrjim,
>> >>
>>
>> >> 9. Find something else to alternate with the ART. If you take
j> ART
>> >> for 5 days and then take a few days off you can take another
j> herb that
>> >> might be best used intermittently. For example this could be
>> >> bloodroot with slippery elm. Read up on it.
>> >>
>>
>> j> Have you tried this? Is there an economical source of bloodroot
j> &
>> j> slippery elm? What dose would you recommend?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Mike mailto:goldenmike@...
>>

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[cancercured] Re: Juicing -- pain in the butt -- any way to make it easier?

How much wheatgrass juice a day is enough?

I read that the Gerson diet say to take 1 oz, 3 times a day

Anyone know how much the Ann Wigmore program recommends?

"Arlyn Grant" wrote:
> I have a Green Life. It's a great juicer, but like you, I just
didn't have the time....I know the Green machines
can juice wheatgrass, so perhaps it would work out well.
> ar

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[cancercured] Re: What's your take on beta 1, 3d glucan? DMG?

Have you haerd of Peakimmume? It combines the glucan with concentrtes
of mushrooms..the co. has don extensive research..it is upposed to
incresae your natural Killer cells dramatically....The cost at a health
food store is $59, but i found it online for $36 per bottle


--- In cancercured, "jrrjim" <jim.mcelroy> wrote:
> Is beta 1, 3d glucan the best immune booster around? Are there
better ones?
> I'm taking about $4.00 worth a day and have to question the cost of
> the supplement. Is it worth it? Or could the money be spent on more
> effective supplements?
> What about DMG? I've seen no discussion of DMG on this board. Are
> people aware of it?
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Selasa, 29 Juli 2008

[cancercured] Re: Arte Smarte

Do they know the mechanism by which bloodroot kills cancer, yet
leaves healthy cells alone? Or does it just seem to do it?

--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, Mike Golden <goldenmike@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello jrrjim,
>
> It is very cheap. You get 90 caps for 18 bucks at
essenseoflife.com.
> There are two ways to go. If you are sturdy (which is why I asked
> you about that previously) you can take 2 full strength (350 mg)
> caps twice a day. If you have a sensitive stomach you can take the
> 85 mg caps that are combined with slippery elm. A full dose of
> those is a whopping 12 caps 3 times per day. I'm guessing you can
> get efficacy with a smaller dose if you need to go that route.
> As far as using it goes, even 1 cap of the low dose stuff gives
Lori
> some distress. When I gave her one weak capsule dissolved in DMSO
> and applied to a few square inches of skin it caused huge cell
death
> by the next day. She had small dead tumors coming out of the skin
> of her chest where she has a large amount of metastasis. This also
> made her feel very unwell for a couple of days with typical
> Hexrheimer type symptoms. After about 1 week the skin healed up
and
> the swelling went down. The interesting thing was that a lot of
the
> cell death was inches away from where we applied the
DMSO/bloodroot.
> I am currently trying to come up with a way to pace this so it is
> not so hard on her.
>
> Mike
>
> Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 12:09:10 PM, you wrote:
>
> j> --- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, goldenmike@ wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello jrrjim,
> >>
>
> >> 9. Find something else to alternate with the ART. If you take
ART
> >> for 5 days and then take a few days off you can take another
herb that
> >> might be best used intermittently. For example this could be
> >> bloodroot with slippery elm. Read up on it.
> >>
>
> j> Have you tried this? Is there an economical source of bloodroot
&
> j> slippery elm? What dose would you recommend?
>
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Mike mailto:goldenmike@...
>

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Re: [cancercured] Re: Apricot and Apple Seeds?

oooooh im so sorry he must have been ingesting quite a bit.. how is he
doing now?? i hope alright..


kacav@verizon.net writes:
A word of caution: I almost lost my brother to cyanide poisoning due
to his ingestion of apricot kernels as well as oral laetrile. This was about 2 months ago. His blood levels of cyanide were near lethal
levels. Be very careful - have a professional keep tabs on you!
Kim C.
PS: He did seem to benefit from the laetrile (for lymphoma) - just use it under close supervision.


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[cancercured] Re: Apricot and Apple Seeds?

A word of caution: I almost lost my brother to cyanide poisoning due
to his ingestion of apricot kernels as well as oral laetrile. This was
about 2 months ago. His blood levels of cyanide were near lethal
levels. Be very careful - have a professional keep tabs on you!
Kim C.
PS: He did seem to benefit from the laetrile (for lymphoma) - just use
it under close supervision.


> The Cyanide that the seeds release is not toxic to humans. Its
toxic to cancer cells. That's why people with cancer use it... I have
researched a lot of the seeds and the benefits. The benefits are
awesome!


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Re: [cancercured] Re: Hands-on energy healing

Hi Robin,

I'm glad they responded to you. I'm concerned that they don't respond
to everyone, though.

ar

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:34:22 -0700 (PDT), "Kaye Robin"
<robinji2002@yahoo.com> said:
> Hi Arlyn,
>
> She sent me two long e-mails. I really don't know much about him. There
> is virtually nothing on the internet about him.
>
> Robin
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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[cancercured] Re: Hands-on energy healing

Hi Arlyn,

She sent me two long e-mails. I really don't know much about him. There is virtually nothing on the internet about him.

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Re: [cancercured] Re: Arte Smarte

Hello jrrjim,

It is very cheap. You get 90 caps for 18 bucks at essenseoflife.com.
There are two ways to go. If you are sturdy (which is why I asked
you about that previously) you can take 2 full strength (350 mg)
caps twice a day. If you have a sensitive stomach you can take the
85 mg caps that are combined with slippery elm. A full dose of
those is a whopping 12 caps 3 times per day. I'm guessing you can
get efficacy with a smaller dose if you need to go that route.
As far as using it goes, even 1 cap of the low dose stuff gives Lori
some distress. When I gave her one weak capsule dissolved in DMSO
and applied to a few square inches of skin it caused huge cell death
by the next day. She had small dead tumors coming out of the skin
of her chest where she has a large amount of metastasis. This also
made her feel very unwell for a couple of days with typical
Hexrheimer type symptoms. After about 1 week the skin healed up and
the swelling went down. The interesting thing was that a lot of the
cell death was inches away from where we applied the DMSO/bloodroot.
I am currently trying to come up with a way to pace this so it is
not so hard on her.

Mike

Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 12:09:10 PM, you wrote:

j> --- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, goldenmike@... wrote:
>>
>> Hello jrrjim,
>>

>> 9. Find something else to alternate with the ART. If you take ART
>> for 5 days and then take a few days off you can take another herb that
>> might be best used intermittently. For example this could be
>> bloodroot with slippery elm. Read up on it.
>>

j> Have you tried this? Is there an economical source of bloodroot &
j> slippery elm? What dose would you recommend?


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