Senin, 31 Maret 2008

[cancercured] Re: tumor promotion with sodium bicarbonate- Seminar-Joe

Joe,

When was the seminar held and where? Any similar upcoming seminar and link to contact?

Thanks,
-Rahul

--- On Mon, 3/31/08, JCastron wrote:
The Simoncini Seminar for physicians and anyone interested, by the way, and held in my area, was $700.00. I would have attended except, obviously, for the cost.


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Re: [cancercured] Evenstar website

Here is the website of the Evenstar:

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[cancercured] Re: Need Input ( of mice and/or men???? )

"Despite the widespread use of morphine to treat pain in many medical
conditions like cancer, little was known about how this drug affects blood vessels or cancer," says Gupta. "Our study shows that morphine stimulates the formation of new blood vessels inside the tumor, which in turn allows increased growth of tumors in mice." Gupta cautions that there is currently no scientific data that indicates morphine or similar pain medications will lead to increased growth of cancers in humans.


"Arlyn Grant" wrote:
....I firmly believe that if my mother had been diagnosed two or three weeks earlier, we would have had a fighting chance to save her life using Budwig. But by the time she was diagnosed, she was so doped up on morphine, she was unable to focus, eat, or even understand what was happening to her. If she had had her wits about her, she would have gone for the alternative treatment without hesitation.

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[cancercured] Re: Need Input--Ice cream

Hi, GB.

I am not sure how the subject of ice cream came up, but while I agree
with you that "natural" ice cream is better than
chemicalized/artificial ice cream, I personally believe that cream
and milk are not good for many people, whether or not they are
organic or raw. I get mucusy from cow dairy myself.

But also, the coldness of ice cream and other things eaten
frozen/very cold is not good for respiratory tract. The tiny cillia
that cleanse the bronchae and the rest of the respiratory tract are
interfered with when a person ingests ice cold food and drink.

I must admit that I do ingest ice cold things myself, from time to
time, but I recognize that they are not very good for me.

Best of health,

Elliot


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Re: [cancercured] Re: Need Input

On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 03:53:02 -0000, "Guru K" <greatyoga@yahoo.com> said:
> Arlyn
>
> There is ice cream and there is Ice cream. Ice cream may not be the
> best thing for anyone. However, if it is made from organic sugar or
> honey; organic cream, milk or rice (Dream); no chemicals, etc.; it is
> a big difference from the kind bought in frozen food freezers
> throughout the land. You can do the same thing with pudding.
>
> GB

GB,

As my mother is dead, it really doesn't matter. I am very familar with
healthy food and that is not what she would eat. I tried, she refused.
It's just that simple.

ar
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[cancercured] Re: Need Input

I just made a pudding out of flax seed powder, milk or soy milk,
honey, strawberries and lemon peel. I suppose you could even use
stevia instead of honey. It tasted very good.

GB

--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, "Arlyn Grant" <arlynsg@...> wrote:
>
> Elliot,
>
> Don't I know it. As my mother was dying, I tried desperately to
get her
> to drink the green smoothies I was making for her. But she
refused.
> The hospice people told my family that it was better to feed Mom ice
> cream and pudding. I was horrified. But I realized that it was all
> about the belief that she is going to die anyway, might as well let
her
> eat what she wants. That's what makes me so angry about this
ridiculous
> misunderstanding concerning alternatives. I firmly believe that if
my
> mother had been diagnosed two or three weeks earlier, we would have
had
> a fighting chance to save her life using Budwig. But by the time
she
> was diagnosed, she was so doped up on morphine, she was unable to
focus,
> eat, or even understand what was happening to her. If she had had
her
> wits about her, she would have gone for the alternative treatment
> without hesitation.
>
> ar

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[cancercured] Re: Need Input

Arlyn

There is ice cream and there is Ice cream. Ice cream may not be the
best thing for anyone. However, if it is made from organic sugar or
honey; organic cream, milk or rice (Dream); no chemicals, etc.; it is
a big difference from the kind bought in frozen food freezers
throughout the land. You can do the same thing with pudding.

GB

--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, "Arlyn Grant" <arlynsg@...> wrote:
>
> Elliot,
>
> Don't I know it. As my mother was dying, I tried desperately to
get her
> to drink the green smoothies I was making for her. But she
refused.
> The hospice people told my family that it was better to feed Mom ice
> cream and pudding. I was horrified. But I realized that it was all
> about the belief that she is going to die anyway, might as well let
her
> eat what she wants. That's what makes me so angry about this
ridiculous
> misunderstanding concerning alternatives. I firmly believe that if
my
> mother had been diagnosed two or three weeks earlier, we would have
had
> a fighting chance to save her life using Budwig. But by the time
she
> was diagnosed, she was so doped up on morphine, she was unable to
focus,
> eat, or even understand what was happening to her. If she had had
her
> wits about her, she would have gone for the alternative treatment
> without hesitation.

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[cancercured] Re: A caveat about colon cleansing

I think a good probiotic and good food enzymes are likely good for most
people to take.

Elliot

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[cancercured] Re: A caveat about colon cleansing---Immune system in the digestive tract

I have read/heard that about how most of the immune system is in the
digestive tract, but have not understood that assertion. I don't
disagree with it; I just would like to understand what it means.

I agree about bowel movements/constipation. It appears to me that all
critters except human beings who do not get enough fiber move their
bowels several times daily.

A while back, someone mentioned the color, texture and odor of urine
as being significant. I am not at all sure of that, but I believe the
color, texture, odor and frequency of bowel movements is indeed
significant.

I believe a person who is having an average of 3 well-formed bowel
movements daily can be confident he/she is doing a good job of
getting or keeping himself healthy. I also believe that if one is
eating enough greens, vegetables and algae, that one's bowel
movements ought to be green-colored. And while they should not smell
like perfume, they also ought not to smell terribly foul. As for the
business of stools "floating," I have never seen that phenomenon, and
I would say I eat more healthfully than 98% of the rest of the
population.

I also believe that specific, direct colon cleansing is not necessary
for most people---that if they just begin eating plenty of fresh, raw
vegetables, fruits, nuts, seeds and grains, and drink plenty of pure
water, that their digestive system will cleanse and take care of
itself.

Best wishes and best of health,

Elliot

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Re: [cancercured] Re: Iodine and Breast Disease/ Breast Cancer - Sun April 13...

In a message dated 3/31/08 7:04:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lynnelalala@aol.com writes:


> will try to go into details in
> the future about how certain fibrocystic diseases(atypia)progresses
> to full blown invasive cancer one third of the time

Can you share these details with us? Many women on this list have
fibrocystic disease and are concerned about your prediction.


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Re: [cancercured] ONDAMED-Lillian

Lillian,
I think there is tug of war between Ondamed and
Inergetix.Could you tell more about the Inergetix you
own,is it better than Ondamed in terms of
utility,applications,diversity e.t.c,I feel operation
of Inergetix is more complex than Ondamed.Could tell
how much Inergetix cost you and about the training to
opearate Inergetix.Finally which one you think is
better Ondamed or Inergetix?
Thanks.
Rahul

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[cancercured] For comdyne

Yes, Dr. Mirkin is pro-pro-biotics. He is an integrative doc who really
understands alternative medicine. Did you read the last 2 paragraphs of
the story on colon cleansing? He talks about the virtues of gut
bacteria. Also, you can do searches on his main webpage,
http://www.drmirkin.com
Ellen

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[cancercured] Re: Hi, Newbie Here

I have taken colloidal silver in the past for colds and stuff when I
was a teenager, before I got bad sick.

I did not know it was good for fungal infections.

Right now I am not able to work a regular job and I took my last
paycheck when I quit my job in December and bought a years supply of
DMSO and whole food vitamins. For now I wll just have to stick with
that.

I have started an internet business and when I start making some
money I will get some colloidal silver.

Thank you for this information.
Desiree

--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, "Dudley Delany"
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> Hi Desiree,
>
> Welcome to the group!
>
> Did you ever consider taking colloidal silver (CS) for your fungal
infection?

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[cancercured] Re: Iodine and Breast Disease/ Breast Cancer - Sun April 13th -...

No, I'm not from Ulster County but I will try to go into details in
the future about how certain fibrocystic diseases(atypia)progresses
to full blown invasive cancer one third of the time. This was
discovered by the Mayo Clinic study (L. Hartmann et al.)

I have slides showing how iodine has reversed fibrocystic disease.

More info is on www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodine

L.
>
> Lynne,
>
> Are you from Ulster County?
>
> For those who can't attend this conference, can you go into some
details
> about the use of iodine and curing fibrocystic breast disease?
>
> Thanks.
>

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[cancercured] Re: A caveat about colon cleansing

Just common sense tells me that clean water is the best agent for
cleaning insides along with one or twice a year fasting routine.

When you mix external chemicals (current herbs are produced by no one
knows who and how), with even more chemicals stored inside intestines
there is no way to predict reaction or outcome of this combination.

Two years ago I've done Colon Hydrotherapy, 4 sessions, with
bioculture implantation. Shortly after – I started to sleep better,
lost all allergic reactions on foods, and a few month later lost about
15lb of extra weight, without any exercise at all. If anyone
interested I can recommend a good bio clinic the bay area, ca.

Love and support,

Maria
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"comdyne2002" <comdyne@...> wrote:
> Right on Doc! Check out these videos from Dr. Shinya, the inventor of the modern sygmoidoscope:
>

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8815243207758660377&q=shinya&total=3866&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1
>
> If the link doesn't work just go the Google Video and type in 'Shinya'
>
>
> "Dr. Loretta Lanphier" wrote:
> >The only down-side I have ever seen with digestive tract cleansing
> (it's important to cleanse the ENTIRE digestive tract, not just the
> colon) is the use of products with psyllium and herbs that act as
harsh laxatives... I do recommend a good probiotic to take
while cleansing, but most people should be on a probiotic anyway -
along with a good organic multi-vitamin/mineral supplement..........

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RE: [cancercured] Re: A caveat about colon cleansing

Just common sense tells me that clean water is the best agent for cleaning
insides along with one or twice a year fasting routine.

When you mix external chemicals (current herbs are produced by no one knows
who and how), with even more chemicals stored inside intestines there is no
way to predict reaction or outcome of this combination.

Two years ago I've done Colon Hydrotherapy, 4 sessions, with bioculture
implantation. Shortly after – started to sleep better, lost all allergic
reactions on food, and a few month later lost about 15lb. of extra weight,
without any exercise at all. If anyone interested I can recommend a good
place the bay area, ca.

Love and support,

Maria

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[cancercured] Re: A caveat about colon cleansing

Right on Doc! Check out these videos from Dr. Shinya, the inventor of
the modern sygmoidoscope:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8815243207758660377&q=shinya&total=3866&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

If the link doesn't work just go the Google Video and type in 'Shinya'


"Dr. Loretta Lanphier" wrote:
>The only down-side I have ever seen with digestive tract cleansing
(it's important to cleanse the ENTIRE digestive tract, not just the
colon) is the use of products with psyllium and herbs that act as harsh laxatives.
> Psyllium can actually cause constipation because it turns to a gel -
thus all the awful looking "ropes" that you see on the internet. Herbs that act
> as harsh laxatives can be harmful to the system if used continually.
> When digestive tract cleansing is done correctly, what this doctor
says is just not factual. I have been using digestive tract cleansing with clients and also myself for over eight years and have never had one suffer from the conditions that he mentions. Not one. No loss of potassium and no loss of electrolytes. In fact, quite the opposite has occurred. And this is with using digestive tract cleansers with all ages. I do recommend a good probiotic to take while cleansing, but most people should be on a probiotic anyway - along with a good organic multi-vitamin/mineral supplement..........
>
>

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Re: [cancercured] Evenstar 12000 is light years ahead to VIBE Machine- prices

Hi,
I got a discount for buying both. I would not recommend getting them from
the person I got them from but there is someone else.

Rose


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[cancercured] Evenstar 12000 or VIBE Machine Group Talk

I don't know anything about this machine but did
find this group also talking about the Evenstar and
Vibe machines.

http://www.topix.com/forum/music/electronic/TBJN577DS358NSEV5

Joe

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Re: [cancercured] ONDAMED

this is the information I have on aondamed..Actually from the website of the
device i use core Inergetix.
Don´t know if you will find it useful or not. see the link below so I do
not waste alot of space copying it all here
In light
Lillian
http://www.energy-medicine.info/ondamed.html

2008/3/31, rahul agarwal <rahulguy2u@yahoo.com>:
>
> Hi,
> Does anyone have any idea about the use and results of Ondamed in cancer
> and other diseases? It is FDA approved and totally different in application
> compared to other energy devices like VIBE, SEAD and Energystar. Ondamed
> uses scanning and application of preprogrammed and individual based
> frequencies.Results seem promising.
> Rahul
>
>
>


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RE: [cancercured] A caveat about colon cleansing

The only down-side I have ever seen with digestive tract cleansing (it's
important to cleanse the ENTIRE digestive tract, not just the colon) is the
use of products with psyllium and herbs that act as harsh laxatives.
Psyllium can actually cause constipation because it turns to a gel - thus
all the awful looking "ropes" that you see on the internet. Herbs that act
as harsh laxatives can be harmful to the system if used continually.

When digestive tract cleansing is done correctly, what this doctor says is
just not factual. I have been using digestive tract cleansing with clients
and also myself for over eight years and have never had one suffer from the
conditions that he mentions. Not one. No loss of potassium and no loss of
electrolytes. In fact, quite the opposite has occurred. And this is with
using digestive tract cleansers with all ages. I do recommend a good
probiotic to take while cleansing, but most people should be on a probiotic
anyway - along with a good organic multi-vitamin/mineral supplement.

Conventional medicine tells us that 2-3 bowel movements per WEEK are normal
for many people. This, in my opinion, is ridiculous and is actually a
precursor for illness. Constipation is one of the foremost health concerns
that people complain about and can be caused by many things, not just the
wrong type of food.

At least 80% of the immune system is located in the digestive tract. If it
kept itself so clean most likely we wouldn't be seeing all the disease that
we do now. When people do not experience at least 2-3 bowel movements DAILY
then they are constipated and if not corrected disease will take hold in one
form or another.

I see way too many health concerns relieved when people perform periodic
colon and liver/gallbladder cleansing to believe that they are unnecessary
or unfounded.

Be Well~
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[cancercured] Another Book /was: Politics/healing

Another book, perhaps more focused for our group, is "The Secret History of the War on Cancer" by Devra Davis published in 2007. This is notable because of her scientific credentials and current work. My husband just bought this for me so I am barely into it but it is facinating so far. http://www.devradavis.com/
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Re: [cancercured] Re: tumor promotion with sodium bicarbonate

Yes Pat, it is revolutionary.Dr.Simoncini is doing it with no monetary benefits and has more tha 20 years of experience in his protocol. He himself being an Oncologist could make millions by pumping chemos daily like an ATM. Consider why he should do his work free and protocols freely available?

Pat Lane wrote:
Rahul,
I am glad you came forward with this. In one of his interview, websites - somewhere - I remember that he said very firmly that it was not alkalinity but the sodium bicarbonate that killed the cancer. If I come across the source I will post it.
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[cancercured] Re: A caveat about colon cleansing

Ask the good doctor what happens to your intestinal flora after he
prescribes an antibiotic. Does he suggest probiotics? I bet not!

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> Dr. Gabe Mirkin is an internist who has a free e-newsletter that is
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> http://www.drmirkin.com/morehealth/2323.html
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Re: [cancercured] Re: tumor promotion with sodium bicarbonate

Rahul,
I am glad you came forward with this. In one of his interview, websites - somewhere - I remember that he said very firmly that it was not alkalinity but the sodium bicarbonate that killed the cancer. If I come across the source I will post it.
Pat

rahul agarwal <rahulguy2u@yahoo.com> wrote: The human body is quite complex and the theories out there just help us in understanding but can't answer all questions in the vivo. Experiments in mice wouldn't justify the results in human beings. When a therapy as simple as NaHCO3 is put forward it is rejected for the simple reason that it would become a home remedy.

I am trying to explain that the complex machanism of alkalinity and Ph with NaHcO3 is not the issue here and there may be tons of study on that, and few intellectuals are unable to catch simple things as cancer in direct collision with sodium bicarbonate. I would like to know from anyone in the list if any paper has been done on the results of DIRECT CONTACT OF NAHCO3 with the malignant tissue. I would appreciate it and not anyone again borrowing and blowing up with the alkalanity-ph-cancer issues, we are talking about the fungus-cancer connection here and not ph-cancer connection.

Whether or not hyperventilating should raise alkalanity as a physiological response makes no sense in cancer pathology. You would die if you hyperventilate for 24 hours. Controlled alkalosis in cancer patients deaths are not known. An open mind approach is needed and if results are there about direct contact of cancer mass with the NaHC03, why doesn't anyone do research on this and come out with more defined protocol. Sure, fear is the factor here that may blow up big pharma and the cancer industry. So the solution: Snub the results before it takes over. Simple!!! Would like to know/Figure it out- Dr.Simoncini approach to research centers and institutes to carry out trials with his protocols were turned down.

Simply posting lengthy unrelated confusing papaers just to prove someone is wrong when results are always there makes no sense. Do some digging, if you find any research paper about the study of histochemical reactions of cancer tissue in direct contact with NaHCo3, post it and I would appreciate it rather than some misdirecting, unrelated documents like ph-alkalinity-hyperventilation-e.t.c, which has no relevance in Dr.Simoncini protocol. Yes,I understand bitter truth is hard to assimilate after going through previous posts on the subject.

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[cancercured] A caveat about colon cleansing

Dr. Gabe Mirkin is an internist who has a free e-newsletter that is
quite good. Here is one story in his newsletter today that warns about
the downside of colon cleansing:
http://www.drmirkin.com/morehealth/2323.html
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[cancercured] ONDAMED

Hi,
Does anyone have any idea about the use and results of Ondamed in cancer and other diseases? It is FDA approved and totally different in application compared to other energy devices like VIBE, SEAD and Energystar. Ondamed uses scanning and application of preprogrammed and individual based frequencies.Results seem promising.
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Re: [cancercured] Evenstar 12000 is light years ahead to VIBE Machine- prices

In a message dated 3/31/08 10:24:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Rosebookay@aol.com writes:


> The set of two was $14,000

Where did you get these and would one be $7000 or did you get a special deal
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[cancercured] Re: Evenstar 12000 is light years ahead to VIBE Machine- prices

light years ahead? Can they be compared, are they the same tecnology?
For a energy dummy like me it is very hard to come to a conclusion with
so many conflicting statements. Oh, by the way: what is Ondamed? Where
does that fit into the picture? Does somebody have experience with that?
thanks all
John


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Re: [cancercured] Iodine and Breast Disease/ Breast Cancer - Sun April 13th - Conference

Thanks for posting. This is important. The polybrominated
diphenylethers (PBDEs) are very high in polyurethane furniture
also. I have never much liked polyurethane anyway. Breast implants
often use a polyurethane foam bags which can decompose under
physiological conditions to TDA (2,4-toluenediamine). I have seen
abdominal cancer of unknown origin in a 26 y/o woman with this type
of implant and no other risk factor. Decades ago urethane was used
as a chemotherapy but it proved too toxic and immunosuppressive.

Vincent

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Re: [cancercured] Iodine and Breast Disease/ Breast Cancer - Sun April 13th -...

In a message dated 3/31/08 8:31:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Powerpoint Slide presentation at Breast Cancer Options 7th Annual
> Complementary Medicine Conference in New Paltz, NY.
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Lynne,

Are you from Ulster County?

For those who can't attend this conference, can you go into some details
about the use of iodine and curing fibrocystic breast disease?

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Re: [cancercured] Evenstar 12000 is light years ahead to VIBE Machine- prices

Yes, but, PERL is nothing like the VIBE or the other one. The PERL (I own
one), is a Light frequency device that is programmable to specific frequencies
that are said to deactivate certain viruses and bacteria and fungi in the
body. The VIBE and others like it are Multi-Wave Oscillator devices that emit a
filed through multiple inert gas tubes. I can't help but think as I read
these posts that people are looking for "proven" things. There are no
"proven" things when it comes to energy devices. Perhaps the VIBE manufacturer, Mr.
Koontz, is attempting to have some studies accepted and that would be great
validation.

These devices work on the energetic levels of the body to restore balance
and to detoxify. I, personally, own two SEAD (Subtle Energy Activation
Devices). They are the next generation of the VIBE, although the VIBE is an
excellent machine, these are better. They employ both the AC and DC currents. Many
people have had fabulous results with all kinds of illnesses using the SEAD
technology. However, most of the time the results are slow to come and the
investment is made without really knowing if it will "cure" the illness one is
seeking to cure.

We are so geared in our society to "getting ride of" something instead of
balancing and healing over a period of time that I think we even try to use the
"medical model" when using alternative therapies. They just don't work that
way.

We are using the SEAD machines for my husband who was diagnosed with Chronic
Lymphacitic Leukemia in December. We purchased the lights in January and
when he had his follow-up blood test in March, his white count had come down
some. Is it back to normal? No. However, we consider what happened a minor
miracle. We will continue to use the SEAD.

Yes, they are extremely expensive. The set of two was $14,000. We were
fortunate to be able to afford them and to be able to use them at our
convenience. I have noticed many subtle changes in me. I emphasize "subtle" because
this is not a quick proccess.

I really pray everyone finds their miracle for healing.

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Re: [cancercured] Evenstar 12000 is light years ahead to VIBE Machine- prices

$6,000 is a lot of money and it clearly is wise to thoroughly examine anything before plunking down a large wad of cash for something.

An example just happened in my world. My wife, recovering, or trying to, from a broken neck ( 2nd. Cervical) was advised, by the Neurosurgeon, to use a 'Bone Stimulator'. The one recommended was over $3,500 if Medicare approved it for this use, which it didn't, and over $5,000 paid for personally or by insurance.

I got the "if it were my family member, I would want them to have every opportunity to get well". Smells of perhaps...............a 'kick-back'?

However, when I examined the statistics and, one needs to really look because they are often hidden in medical mumbo-jumbo making the study more positive than it really is, I found there was a 15% improvement over the control group not using the 'gadget'. That means that 85 out of 100 do not benefit from the use of a $6,000 machine. There was no information about how much the 15% benefit other than that there was "more fusion" than in the control group. Additionally the 'gadget' will only last for approximately 420 actual uses.

We are about to borrow a different 'bone stimulator' from a nephew that recently did well after major surgery of the cervical area. His insurance company paid $5,000 for that one with $600 out of their pocket. We throw these $5,000 and $6,000 figures around as if they have no impact on we mortals.

Of course if one were to get real measurable benefit what price would you balk at and finally, does this mean that only the wealthy can benefit? I know a lot of people that could not drop $6,000 on anything let alone something with little evidence of benefit. What a system and we wonder why Health-Care in the richest nation in the world lags behind every other westernized nation and barely ahead of Mexico.

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[cancercured] Iodine and Breast Disease/ Breast Cancer - Sun April 13th - Conference

Powerpoint Slide presentation at Breast Cancer Options 7th Annual
Complementary Medicine Conference in New Paltz, NY.
_http://www.breastcanceroptions.org/ComplementaryMedicineCo.asp_

(http://www.breastcanceroptions.org/ComplementaryMedicineCo.asp)

Neat workshops. Scholarships are available.

Iodine: The Perfect Storm Theory of Breast Cancer

Breast Cancer rates rose from one in 23 to one in seven over the last 30
years.
During this time, the nutrient, iodine, was removed from the food supply and
the
"anti-iodine," toxin, bromide, was introduced widely into many consumer
products. Stealth (unlabeled) bromide exposure from fire-retardants
surrounds us
in our daily life to a degree unacceptable in some other countries. The
presentation will first explore how bromide dominance may function as the
biochemical equivalent of global warming as iodine-deficient women reach
the age
for breast and other hormone-sensitive cancers.

Next, we will explore how some forms of benign breast disease can represent a
precancerous condition by examining research on iodine and the breast from
1954
to the present. Finally, we will show how at-risk breast patients have used
iodine to improve or reverse fibrocystic breast disease.


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Re: [cancercured] Holistic Medicine and 'alternative' medicine

I was for a long time confused by the terms 'holistic' and 'alternative' ie did they mean the same thing? And what then would we call approaches that seemed 'alternative' that were not 'holistic'.

The truth, as I came to see it, is that there is really no such thing as 'alternative medicine' that was defined by what it was i.e. as having a coherent set of underlying principles. It is really defined by its enemies, by what it is not - i.e. it is not mainstream.

Holistic medicine is therefore part of the alternative world but not the whole of it. To give an example. Bloodroot herb is used to attack and kill cancerous calls. This is alternative but there is nothing 'holistic' about it.

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Re: [cancercured] tumor promotion with sodium bicarbonate- Seminar

The Simoncini Seminar for physicians and anyone interested, by the way, and held in my area, was $700.00.

I would have attended except, obviously, for the cost.


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Re: [cancercured] Evenstar 12000 is light years ahead to VIBE Machine-Rahul

The link does not lead to an interesting website - certainly not to one that supports any claim that any machine is 'lightyears ahead of VIBE'

Jonathan




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[cancercured] Evenstar 12000 is light years ahead to VIBE Machine- prices

So many emails about Evenstar but how many have actually used it and what had
it accomplished.

$6000 is a LOT of money. I would like to hear testamonials and are there any
tests out there?

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[cancercured] DNA Activation & Repair via New Sound Frequencies

Hi Folks!

My name is Donald Adams, Im a scentific researcher.
Been working on a project for the last 7 years, a
significant spin off of which has resulted in the
novel discovery of new curious sound frequencies which
appear to be able to possibly affect DNA.
Specifically, I strongly suspect both activation and
repair may be possible.

I have a test group of approximately 600 volunteers.
Many of which have been reporting all kinds of
positive and dramatic phenomena related to
regeneration, healing, well being..... and I do mean
dramatic.

I'd be happy to provide more information on this and
even give anyone samples of these audio frequencies to
experiment with if their interested?

I could post a link to the group, but not sure of what
the protocol for that sort of thing is here as Im
still new. Perhaps you could also email me direct if
you wish at

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[cancercured] Re: tumor promotion with sodium bicarbonate

The human body is quite complex and the theories out there just help us in understanding but can't answer all questions in the vivo. Experiments in mice wouldn't justify the results in human beings. When a therapy as simple as NaHCO3 is put forward it is rejected for the simple reason that it would become a home remedy.

I am trying to explain that the complex machanism of alkalinity and Ph with NaHcO3 is not the issue here and there may be tons of study on that, and few intellectuals are unable to catch simple things as cancer in direct collision with sodium bicarbonate. I would like to know from anyone in the list if any paper has been done on the results of DIRECT CONTACT OF NAHCO3 with the malignant tissue. I would appreciate it and not anyone again borrowing and blowing up with the alkalanity-ph-cancer issues, we are talking about the fungus-cancer connection here and not ph-cancer connection.

Whether or not hyperventilating should raise alkalanity as a physiological response makes no sense in cancer pathology. You would die if you hyperventilate for 24 hours. Controlled alkalosis in cancer patients deaths are not known. An open mind approach is needed and if results are there about direct contact of cancer mass with the NaHC03, why doesn't anyone do research on this and come out with more defined protocol. Sure, fear is the factor here that may blow up big pharma and the cancer industry. So the solution: Snub the results before it takes over. Simple!!! Would like to know/Figure it out- Dr.Simoncini approach to research centers and institutes to carry out trials with his protocols were turned down.

Simply posting lengthy unrelated confusing papaers just to prove someone is wrong when results are always there makes no sense. Do some digging, if you find any research paper about the study of histochemical reactions of cancer tissue in direct contact with NaHCo3, post it and I would appreciate it rather than some misdirecting, unrelated documents like ph-alkalinity-hyperventilation-e.t.c, which has no relevance in Dr.Simoncini protocol. Yes,I understand bitter truth is hard to assimilate after going through previous posts on the subject.

Rahul


Mon, 3/31/08, VGammill wrote:
No one on the list has addressed the lack of
data in support of Dr. Simoncini's claims. No
one wants to address the basic science as so well
presented by Dr. Simoncini's own Italian
colleagues (below). The abstracts that I have
posted are not intended as a refutation of
Simoncini. They do show that the relationship of
pH and cancer is quite complex.

It is unnecessary for clinicians to understand
the chemistry that would buttress their
claims. It is necessary for them to show their
raw data in an intelligible form -- if they want
the respect of the professional world. This is
all the more important when one's claims run
counter to conventional science and understanding...........


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Minggu, 30 Maret 2008

Re: [cancercured] tumor promotion with sodium bicarbonate

Symptoms of alkalosis include irritability and muscle
spasms/weakness/twitching. Gerson therapy is not profoundly alkaline.

Vincent

At 02:15 PM 3/30/2008, you wrote:

>What does this suggest about the Gerson diet,
>which is profoundly alkaline?
>
>Lisa
>
>VGammill wrote:
>
> > List, The following abstracts speak to the probable inadvisability
> > of inducing extremes of pH. Sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO3) is used in
> > animal models as a tumor promoter. Table salt (NaCl) can be equally
> > troubling.
> >
> > Vincent


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Re: [cancercured] tumor promotion with sodium bicarbonate

No one on the list has addressed the lack of
data in support of Dr. Simoncini's claims. No
one wants to address the basic science as so well
presented by Dr. Simoncini's own Italian
colleagues (below). The abstracts that I have
posted are not intended as a refutation of
Simoncini. They do show that the relationship of
pH and cancer is quite complex.

It is unnecessary for clinicians to understand
the chemistry that would buttress their
claims. It is necessary for them to show their
raw data in an intelligible form -- if they want
the respect of the professional world. This is
all the more important when one's claims run
counter to conventional science and understanding.

I get a terrible feeling of deja vu when looking
at Simoncini's website. We have been here before
with other European MDs who had the absolute best
cure for cancer. Whatever happened to Gonsalvez
and his thioproline cure? to Danopoulos and his
urea cure? Bonous and his whey cure? to DiBello
and his somatostatin cure? to Olivisatos and his
niacin cure? to Hamer and his trauma resolution cure?

What do these physicians have in common with
Simoncini? With their confidence, enthusiasm,
and testimonials they attracted many followers
and defenders, but none of these physicians saw
fit to publish supporting data. Their therapies
would slowly lose their shine and their
sycophants and proteges would drift off to find
new heros. The hangers on would talk darkly of conspiracies.

Simoncini would likely find more professional
favor were he to answer the questions in the
comments below the abstract. List members might
ask themselves why this cure hasn't been heralded
before when alkalosis is such a common
electrolyte disturbance. One would think
that subsequent "spontaneous remissions" would
be de rigeur. Why not just alkalinize by hyperventilating?

Vincent


At 11:59 AM 3/30/2008, Vincent wrote:


>For credentialed professionals the usual and
>credible way to release bona fide information is
>through peer-reviewed articles. There is no
>conspiracy to suppress such information. An example is:
>------
>
><<http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/0304419X>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/0304419X>
>Biochimica et Biophysica Acta (BBA) - Reviews on Cancer
>Volume 1756, Issue 1, 25 September 2005, Pages 1-24
>
>The role of pH dynamics and the Na+/H+ antiporter
>in the etiopathogenesis and treatment of cancer.
>Two faces of the same coin­one single nature
>
>Salvador Harguindey, Gorka Orive, José Luis
>Pedraz, Angelo Paradiso, and Stephan J. Reshkin
>
>aCentro Médico "La Salud"- c) Independencia,
>13-01004 Vitoria, Spain, and Biotechnology
>Institute (BTI), c) San Antonio 15-5°, 01005 Vitoria, Spain
>bDepartment of Pharmacy and Pharmaceutical
>Technology, Faculty of Pharmacy, University of
>the Basque Country, c) Paseo de las Universidades, 7-01006 Vitoria, Spain
>cLaboratory of Clinical Experimental Oncology,
>Oncology Institute of Bari, 70126 Bari, Italy
>dDepartment of General and Environmental
>Physiology, University of Bari, 70126 Bari, Italy
>Received 3 March 2004; accepted 30 June 2005. Available online 19 July 2005.
>
>Abstract
>
>Looked at from the genetic point-of-view cancer
>represents a daunting and, frankly, confusing
>multiplicity of diseases (at least 100) that
>require an equally large variety of therapeutic
>strategies and substances designed to treat the
>particular tumor. However, when analyzed
>phenotypically cancer is a relatively uniform
>disease of very conserved 'hallmark' behaviors
>across the entire spectrum of tissue and genetic
>differences [D. Hanahan, R.A. Weinberg, Hallmarks
>of cancer, Cell 100 (2000) 57–70]. This suggests
>that cancers do, indeed, share common biochemical
>and physiological characteristics that are
>independent of the varied genetic backgrounds,
>and that there may be a common mechanism
>underlying both the neoplastic
>transformation/progression side and the
>antineoplastic/therapy side of oncology. The
>challenge of modern oncology is to integrate all
>the diverse experimental data to create a
>physiological/metabolic/energetic paradigm that
>can unite our thinking in order to understand how
>both neoplastic progression and therapies
>function. This reductionist view gives the hope
>that, as in chemistry and physics, it will
>possible to identify common underlying driving
>forces that define a tumor and will permit, for
>the first time, the actual calculated
>manipulation of their state. That is, a rational
>therapeutic design. In the present review, we
>present evidence, obtained from a great number of
>studies, for a fundamental, underlying mechanism
>involved in the initiation and evolution of the
>neoplastic process. There is an ever growing body
>of evidence that all the important neoplastic
>phenotypes are driven by an alkalization of the
>transformed cell, a process which seems specific
>for transformed cells since the same
>alkalinization has no effect in cells that have
>not been transformed. Seen in that light,
>different fields of cancer research, from
>etiopathogenesis, cancer cell metabolism and
>neovascularization, to multiple drug resistance
>(MDR), selective apoptosis, modern cancer
>chemotherapy and the spontaneous regression of
>cancer (SRC) all appear to have in common a
>pivotal characteristic, the aberrant regulation
>of hydrogen ion dynamics [S. Harguindey, J.L.
>Pedraz, R. García Cañero, J. Pérez de Diego, E.J.
>Cragoe Jr., Hydrogen ion-dependent oncogenesis
>and parallel new avenues to cancer prevention and
>treatment using a H+-mediated unifying approach:
>pH-related and pH-unrelated mechanisms, Crit.
>Rev. Oncog. 6 (1) (1995) 1–33]. Cancer cells have
>an acid–base disturbance that is completely
>different than observed in normal tissues and
>that increases in correspondence with increasing
>neoplastic state: an interstitial acid
>microenvironment linked to an intracellular alkalosis.
>------ Comment
>Dr. Simoncini chose not to go the route that
>would win the respect of colleagues. When there
>are problems getting important clinical research
>published, the researcher can put all the raw
>data on his/her website or in any number of web
>publications. Any clinician knows how to display
>a matrix of all patients, diagnoses, stage of
>disease, past and current therapies, and
>assessment of results -- complete remissions,
>partial remissions, stabilization of disease, and
>progression of disease. From this we can draw our own conclusions.
>
>Dr. Simoncini's claims seem to go hand in hand
>with his unconventional candida theory of cancer,
>but he provides very little scientific support
>for either. His reporting of wonderful cures
>might be one hundred percent accurate, but why
>did he choose to present his information in the
>same wearying way that is usually selected by scientistic hucksters.
>
>The history of sodium bicarbonate is almost
>identical to the history of hydrogen peroxide and
>other oxygen therapies for cancer. It goes back
>many decades and has many true
>believers. Certainly some people have
>benefited. In any responsible reporting we would
>be told when the treatment can be expected to
>fall on its face. How well does it work on the
>many difficult sarcomas? on low grade
>carcinomas? on the various leukemias and
>lymphomas? on patients with drug resistance? in
>the face of co-morbid conditions? what about
>bone mets? are there ANY cases where the sodium
>bicarbonate promoted cancer growth or cancer metastasis?
>
>The way this therapy is now being presented, all
>cancer patients can now say, "Whoopee! I'm as
>good as cured. I just have to make a pilgrimage
>to Dr. Simoncini -- or at least see a physician
>who has paid for Dr. Simoncini's seminar."
>
>Vincent


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Re: [cancercured] tumor promotion with sodium bicarbonate

The Gerson Diet is an anti-cancer diet not necessarily because it alkalizes but because:

1. It is a calory restrictive diet (starves the cancer).
2. It is made mainly of fruits and vegetables (particularly their juices) which:
a: Contain many cancer fighting phytonutrients (fight cancer)
b. Are not energy consuming. They are easily digested, processed and assimilated (important in chronic diseases)

Gubi

----- Original Message -----
From: Lisa Suhair Majaj
To: cancercured@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: [cancercured] tumor promotion with sodium bicarbonate


What does this suggest about the Gerson diet,
which is profoundly alkaline?

Lisa

VGammill wrote:

> List, The following abstracts speak to the probable inadvisability
> of inducing extremes of pH. Sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO3) is used in
> animal models as a tumor promoter. Table salt (NaCl) can be equally
> troubling.
>
> Vincent
----------[snip]


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[cancercured] RE: [cancer cured] tumor promotion with sodium bicarbonate

Dear Dr.Loretta,
Thanks for the post.My approach is what is wrong in trying substances like NaHCO3 in cases that were treated by the mainstream in advanced cancers like breast, lung, prostate e.t.c.,wtih horrendous chemo leaving the patient wrecked and certified few months to live. This is legal criminal quackery and nothing else.I have seen with my own eyes a lung cancer patient respond dramatically with NaHC03 when given up by the mainstream. You would be surprised an honest top oncologist in my place invited the doctor that did NaHCO3 to get more details and try on more cancer patients!! Now tell me how many oncologits have open mind like that. Please note that Dr.Simoncini is an oncologist and an authority. If ego, money and prestige is the main issue in dealing with cancer patients and allow cancer patients die in the corridor due to these factors, I believe many Simoncinis have to take birth to put it straight.
Rahul

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[cancercured] Re: A Reputable Online Pharmacy...?

Larry Von,
Reputable usually means "of good reputation". In the case of
U.S.on-line pharmacies this means following applicable federal law
regarding prescription drugs. No "reputable U.S. pharmacy" will
provide prescription drugs without a prescription. Foreign suppliers
may choose to ignore U.S.law but then we don't know what other
standards they may choose to ignore which is why we don't trust them.
Probably the easiest course is to get a prescription.
All the best,
Jon

--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, Paula <fractalmoves2@...> wrote:
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> Can anyone recommend a reputable online pharmacy, that will
provide the "actual drug" without a prescription? "Actual drug"
meaning there is no question of fraud involved.
>
> Larry Von
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[cancercured] More on antioxidants and cancer treatment

Ralph W. Moss, Ph.D. Weekly CancerDecisions.com
Newsletter #334 03/30/08

THE MOSS REPORTS - CANCER DECISIONS NEWSLETTER

DOES RESVERATROL ENHANCE THE EFFECTS OF RADIATION THERAPY?

Cancer patients are frequently told by their oncologists not to take
antioxidants while undergoing chemotherapy or radiation therapy.
Supposedly, antioxidants counteract the beneficial free radicals that
are generated by conventional treatment, thereby interfering with its
effectiveness. A small number of scientists have argued the opposite,
suggesting that antioxidants do not generally interfere with cancer
treatment but, rather, enhance its effectiveness while sparing normal
cells from damage. It is one of the great dividing lines between
conventional and CAM-oriented practitioners.

Now some research from the University of Rochester has contradicted the
idea that antioxidants interfere and added credibility to the idea that
they enhance treatment effectiveness. [That is certainly reputed to be
the case with intravenous vitamin C -- RB]

To read or listen to this week's newsletter, go to:
http://www.cancerdecisions.com/033008.html [and scroll down the page]


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[cancercured] Please trim your posts!

The last Digest I got was miles long! Thanks!

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[cancercured] Politics/healing

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Re: [cancercured] Evenstar 12000 is light years ahead to VIBE Machine- prices

Also see the PERL: $5.900 :
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[cancercured] Re: A Reputable Online Pharmacy...?

I believe that lef.org has an online/phone pharmacy. I would expect that a prescription would be required.

However, re:
"What does this mean? I have never heard of being able to get a drug without
> a perscription."
>
There ARE places that have physicians that will prescribe over the phone. A lot of people get their Viagra that way, apparently.

--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, szukipoo@... wrote:
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> In a message dated 3/30/08 11:56:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> fractalmoves2@... writes:
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>
> > "Actual drug" meaning there is no question of fraud involved.
> >
>
> What does this mean? I have never heard of being able to get a drug without
> a perscription.
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