I think there is enough space in this world for two differing opinions.
Vincent has his own experience with helping very sick people and from his point of view, muscle testing is not something he can rely on to help his people. You GB are also competent in your own field and you feel that muscle testing is a good tool for you.
I think that people can choose what they want to pursue for their own issues. If muscle testing was so great, more people would have been helped. That is not to say that no one is helped but when you deal with stage 4 cancer, there are alternatives that can help you more quickly if you know what they are.
From my end as a clinical nutritionist, muscle testing turned out to be completely different than blood testing for food allergies. It has wasted my time and my client's precious time in formulating a food plan. I also have not appreciated the incredible dependence on the muscle testing to take food or supplements. One family's little 3 year old almost died because their allegiance was to muscle testing. It was done by a reputable practitioner here in town. The blood test revealed a very different story.
I can speak for myself................before I became a clinical nutritionist 20 years ago, I submitted myself to muscle testing then. I had 5 cancers in 5 years at the time. Anyhow, it did not help me very much. Now, 20 years later, after intense blood and saliva testing, they discovered I am a celiac. The muscle testing never indicated this at all. My family was shocked and now, we are testing all the kids to see if they all suffer from this before they leave our nest. There is enough time still to teach them this change of lifestyle.
Once again, I respect your experience but I would not attack Vincent's experience. He works with people in very critical condition. (Been there and done that as a patient and a practitioner.)
Johanne
From: Guru K
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:01 AM
To: cancercured@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cancercured] Re: muscle testing, was Holy crapola
Vincent
Even by your own admission, one double blinded test is not reliable.
If I take a one person poll and one person says they are for McCain,
does that mean McCain will win? I agree that muscle testing should
be tested more but does that make it invalid? It seems that your
own conclusions are buried in bias. I think people should be open
to the possibility until proved otherwise. I have seen very good
results from muscle testing.
GB
--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, VGammill <vgammill@...> wrote:
>
> I could never understand the fascination with muscle testing. It
> seems so popular with holistic practitioners that I took a course
in
> it from Bradley Nelson, D.C. who is lauded as an expert. During
the
> course I witnessed muscle testing being used by proxy to assess
the
> health of people miles away. A woman with unexplained pains was
> diagnosed with nephroptosis and the chiropractor manipulated her
> kidneys (or so it was claimed) back to their correct perches.
>
> I inescapably concluded that muscle testing is a shared fantasy of
> the practitioner and the client. It might be a useful tool for
> plumbing the depths of some hidden parts of one's mind for those
who
> find this interesting, but it makes no sense to use it to
prescribe
> medical treatments.
>
> When a practitioner who practices applied kinesiology comes to our
> seminars I offer to set up a double blinded test of their skills.
I
> have had only one acceptance. We set it up, muscle tested the
items
> repeatedly, and then unblinded the tests. The results were
> completely stochastic.
>
> Precious few people are curious about flaws in their own thinking.
> Perhaps they fear that their whole world will unravel.
>
> Vincent
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