I think the situation here might be that if a woman has normal
estrogen levels, then red clover is good because the phytoestrogens
block the endogenous estrogen and their stimulation effect is less.
On the other hand, if a woman is post menopausal, either due to age or
to hysterectomy, then the red clover might not be a good idea because
it is supplying some estrogen effect on receptors above that produced
by low endogenous levels. The exception here might be an obese post
menopausal woman who might have near normal estrogen levels due to
peripheral conversion in the fat stores. In that case phytoestrogen
might be a good idea once again.
Mike
Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 8:43:23 AM, you wrote:
L> goldenmike@... wrote:
>> Hoxsey formula containing red clover
>> for use in estrogen positive breast cancer [BC]?...red clover
L> containing phytoestrogen.
L> I would rarely decide against an herbal formula simply because
L> 1 ingredient is potentially harmful.
L> Moreover, my understanding is that phytoestrogens (e.g., in fermented
L> soy) usually INHIBIT the growth of ER+ BC.
L> Furthermore, red clover contains many cancer-healing substances.
L> Also, many women w/BC have recovered thru use of Hoxsey.
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Best regards,
goldenmike mailto:goldenmike@sbcglobal.net
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