Jumat, 08 Agustus 2008

RE: [cancercured] High dose vitamin C injections promoted cancer growth in our studies

Vincent,
Read your first sentence. That is what I was stressing the same in my last mail. You would give many links to support the therapies.It would be meaningful only if we could get the same results in our clinical set up. But is doesn't happen for all remedies and some could be dangerous like VitC if used as single remedy. We do have charity clinic and we do use many ayurvedic remedies working better tha VitC, pamidronate e.t.c. We have sophisticated detoxyfying procedures like Pancha Karma that nothing that is available there on this planet could be compared with its efficacy. So we are in constantly search of poorman's remedy for those cancer patients that are thrown out on the corridors of govt. hospitals here and can't afford private hospitals.
Regarding Manju Ray, I know her better. She is not a medical doctor but gave wide media publicity and many cancer patients ran to her only to be exploited with their money. Later she has been labelled a publicity stunt and his works are proven not valid. We have received many patients that had been treated with Manju Ray and landed uo with complications. Mind you,in India people including doctors are open minded to alternative therapies but at the same time harsh towards dangerous remedies like Manju Ray propagated long time ago.
We need to be umbiased and not hesitate to say if something doesn't work than quoting somebody's work that worked for him/her and hence should work for one and all. Manju Ray you quoted is sufficient to prove it. Please don't advertise like this. Many unaware cancer patients may take this seriously may land up with situations like many patients had.
Being open and without ego helps one whom we are healing.
Chakra

--- On Fri, 8/8/08, VGammill wrote:

Chakra,
Most clinical studies aren't worth a bucket of warm spit. To find
out if a therapy is useful it is best to avoid preset notions. Reread your message and count the number of absolutes that you used.
Over the years I've learned to isolate our work from anything that
would skew the quest for truth. Number one is the pursuit of
money. When a treatment brings the cash rolling into the clinic it
is hard to think of it as anything but wonderful. We made our
operation non-profit to avoid this. It works. Ten years ago I was
convinced that mu-trioxobiscarboxy ethylgermanium (sesquioxide) had to be one of the world's best cancer killers, but it was just too
expensive to use.
As a non-profit we had a contributor who donated multiple kilos. We
could use it whenever we felt like it with no consideration to the
cost. Over the years we noticed that it tended to stay on the
shelf. We might use it in a nebulizer for certain lung cancers, but
that was about it.
On the other hand we started using pau d'arco tea about the same
time. Over the years we found ourselves reaching for it more and
more. It often seemed to work as a stand alone, it seemed to help
most other therapies and hindered none that we noticed.
Another example is the use of Zometa. Most clinics switched from
pamidronate. It allowed a 15 minute infusion instead of a two-hour
infusion and the profits were higher. We noticed that often cancers
that were in remission started to grow again. We switched back to
the earlier drug. The same with dosage. As long as there are no
dental problems we use pamidronate weekly, though often in smaller
doses. We get much better results than those who use it monthly. It
has been known for over ten years that it prevents mets to the
bone. Insurance won't pay for it until bone mets are proven. This
is because it will typically cost insurance $1,000 to $2,000 per
injection. We give it away free to anyone doing our program.
Antineoplastons will cost as much as $8,000 per month to obtain this
in Texas. We gave it away free for years. I have slowed on this as
I don't consider it very effective.
I remember when someone from your own country, Manju Ray, was
attacked unmercifully for using methylglyoxal with vitamin C. None
of her critics could claim that it didn't have value. They were
outraged because it did have value and a researcher outsmarted them
in putting together a clinical trial. Manju's husband also works at
the Institute in Kolkata. He donates his entire salary back to the
institute. I am convinced that part of the reason their work is so
successful is that they are not in this for the money and they will
do whatever it takes to stop cancer no matter how the industry
protests. Twice now she has been an honored guest at our Center in
Del Mar, California.
I do think that medicine would progress at lightning speed if both
arrogance and the pursuit of money were removed from the equation.


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