Minggu, 03 Agustus 2008

Re: [cancercured] Dr.Kumar

Well, Dr. Kumar, we share much in common, but I think most
importantly we both like to help late stage cancer patients who have
been chewed up and spit out by the system, and we both consider it an
honor and duty to serve the poor. I run a non-profit in Del Mar,
California. This area has got to be one of the wealthiest on the
planet. It was my hope to be able encourage the wealthy to share
their good fortune with the poor. Unfortunately it seems that most
have obtained their wealth only through cleverly making others destitute.

Sadly, I have had to conclude that most wealthy people not only look
down on the poor, but positively delight in their personal
contributions to their misery. Of course they posture
otherwise. They'll spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on a gala
to raise a few hundred dollars and "awareness" of the plight of the
less fortunate. Of course every once in a while they are hoisted by
their own petard. One can't help but reflect. A billionaire who
lived a stone's throw from our Center died of cancer (unnecessarily)
and bequeathed hundreds of millions of dollars to orchestras,
etc. The wealthy want their "conspicuous consumption" to continue
long after they are gone.

Perhaps some day it will be our mutual good fortune to be able to
trade staff members. I would love to be able to give better
presentations of traditional siddha and unani methods, for
example. If time permitted I would not mind giving seminars in India
on Thomsonian botanic medicine as practiced in the US during the
early and middle eighteen hundreds. I will send a topics agenda off list.

Vincent

At 05:24 AM 8/3/2008, you wrote:

>Dear Vincent,
> I am not rich enough to get graduated in the US in prestigious
> medical institute in the US.But I am not afraid to say that I
> graduated in one of the top medical school in India with high
> laurels. Also out of the box,after MD,I joined Alternative Indian
> Medicine university to do a once again full medical course in
> Indian medicine MD in Indian Medicine.(i.e.two times doctor in two
> different universities in two different systems of medicine).So I
> am one of very few(two or three)doctors in India that have done
> university graduations in two different systems of
> medicine.Eventhough I got lucrative job offers from the US
> centers,I din't venture like many of my friends did but prefered to
> stay in India helping the poor and needy that can't afford costly
> mainstream in diseases like cancers e.t.c,in terms of useless and
> toxic chemo.Since I am graduated in best of both the worlds in
> healing art,I am always exploring new ways and means to find remedies
>in illnesses especially chronic illnesses like cancers,autoimmune
>and degenerative basis based on scientific and self study.This has
>led me to swim against tides(mainstream colleagues)but I am stern to
>help these helpless when they are given up by them.So most of my
>patients are poor and given up by the mainstream.But of course there
>are some like recently mainstream onco doctor himself called me to
>know if I have something to help him out!!(he has Ca lung-stg IV).
> I do know many alternatives for cancers some seem like very much
> outside box and may seem very much like 'quackery'to most of
> you.Those things I don't like to discuss here to invite unhealthy
> debates to give an ex: EMF pulsed therapy(biophysical
> medicine).Recently one MD doctor from canada cured his mothers
> cancer with this therapy alone.I saw fantastic relief in patiens
> with inflammatory breast cancer.But I don't like to enter into
> discussion that would invite hard debates.So I keep certain
> remedies like this away from discussion.
> Lastly,I am here to learn from many learned here(eventhough they
> are not doctors).I am not shy to say that I have learnt so much
> from them in this group and made me to think deeper and explore
> further.For this reason I kept my name as simple
> 'Kumar'than'Dr.Kumar'in signing the posts just to make me and you
> comfortable like I am just like one among you all.It is only after
> Dee,a tireless noble human that is trying to help many cancer
> patients that made me to write Dr.before my name:).She is brilliant
> and motivating to many cancer survivors.
> Vincent,I truly acknowledge your knowledge and contribution to
> the group.Your views are sharp and descriminatory.
> Finally if anyone would like to share my views and
> add/correct/modify my contribution of whatever I know,please say
> so and most welcome.If anyone just wants to call my
> views/contribution something as 'quackery' and simple meaningless
> arguments,please free to be say also so that I won't waste your
> time as well as mine.Since I am qualified doctor of both the
> worlds,trying to heal those given up by the mainstream and also
> learning and trying to contribute I shouldn't feel that way too.
> Thanks,
>Respectfully,
>Dr.Kumar
>
>--- On Sat, 8/2/08, VGammill
><<mailto:vgammill%40adelphia.net>vgammill@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>From: VGammill <<mailto:vgammill%40adelphia.net>vgammill@adelphia.net>
>Subject: Re: [cancercured] Re: Two years fight with cancer of ovary
>To:Jan from Dr.Kumar
>To: <mailto:cancercured%40yahoogroups.com>cancercured@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 6:42 PM
>
>At 06:35 AM 8/2/2008, Addressing Dr. Kumar, KarlS wrote:
>
> >Hi, Your signature indicates that you are a doctor. What kind;
> >where were you educated?
>
>Yes, Dr. Kumar, that is a good point. If you went to a prestigious
>medical school in the US then we would have to assume that you labor
>under the foolish indoctrinations imposed on witless US medical
>trainees where the greed-fevered laissez faire paradigm is manifest
>in every aspect of medical research and clinical practice. An
>example of this is the exclusive respect that is obsequiously
>accorded "evidence based" research. Of course "legitimate" research
>costs a bundle and both government and business fight tooth and nail
>to thwart, nay, criminalize, any research that leads neither to
>unconscionable profits for the "investor class" nor to the fleecing
>of the small investor. Heaven help anyone who develops an
>inexpensive cure for any of the cash-cow chronic diseases.
>
>Dr. Kumar, please reassure us that your medical education was gained
>outside that which is pharmaceutical industry sanctioned or at least
>tell us what you have done to deprogram yourself.
>
>Thank you for your contributions to the list,
>
>Vincent


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