biochemist? All of the above?
I'd like to continue on with a discussion about the antioxidants and
the omega 3's.
You see, I was under the impression that if both were just sort of
floating around in the bloodstream or wherever, that they would mix.
The unsaturated omega 3's apparently have "loose electrons" in their
outer electron clouds, and the antioxidants, of whatever type, would
grab those suckers and stabilize the oils. But the Budwig people
claim that the those oils have to remain unstable to do their good
work at the cell membrane level. (Or something like that -- not
fully sure).
So you are saying that IP6 and Co10 will probably not interfere with
the omega 3's. Even if they both meet up in some dark capillary, or
maybe in the jugular superhighway? But you are saying vitamin E,
because it is oil soluable, probably would mess with the omega 3's.
So is oil soluability a major issue here? CoQ10 is oil soluable, but
you are saying it doesn't mess with omega 3's. I believe you -- you
obviously know a lot more about biochemistry than I do. It's just
confusing to me.
What about the other antioxidants and omega 3's?
Beta carotene
vitamin C
zinc
selenium
alpha lipoic acid
higher doses of B vitamins in general
others?
I tried doing muscle testing on these, along with flaxseed oil. I
did it blindfolded, with my wife handing me the vitamins. The results
were inconclusive in some cases. Vitamin C did poorly. So did
vitamin E. But I had two identical bottles of IP6, and one did very
well and the other did poorly, which is just plain weird. A strong B
complex did well.
--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, goldenmike@... wrote:
>
> Hello jrrjim,
>
> I'm sympathetic with your consternation! One important point is
that
> different antioxidants act in, not only different compartments of
the
> body, but in different compartments of the cell. Co-enzyme Q-10 is
a
> cofactor in phase one of electron transport in oxidative
> phosphorylation. This occurs along the inner mitochondrial
mambrane.
> It probaly does not impact so much on the oxidative aspects of omega
> 3s on the cell membrane, or even on the mitochondrial membrane
itself.
> Q-10 will act to "rev up" the production of ATP, so should be
> compatable with Budwig (It would, however be incompatable with Paw
> Paw, which inhibits respiration at exactly that phase one point).
> Ip6 acts as an antioxidant in the cytoplasm of the cell where it
> encounters and binds with iron. I doubt if it has any impact with
> regard to the membrane stucture. The membranes are hydrophobic and
> IP6 is active in the well hydrated cytosol. Common sense would
> indicate that flax itself is high in phytate, which is what IP6 is,
> so it could not interfere with the oil.
> Now, obviously large amounts of the fat soluble vitamin E might
cause
> a problem. My point is that you can't use a broad generalization
to
> indict all antioxidants with regrd to Budwig (although this is
> exactly what many of the proponents do!) Each case must be
examined
> individually.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 12:19:58 PM, you wrote:
> In perusing various cancer treatments, it seems to me that the
Budwig
> Protocol is one of the most successful.
> But Budwig folks are adamant that artificial supplements,
especially
> antioxidants are really bad. Budwig seems to give two reasons for
this..............
>
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